4 key moments from Dr. Sanjay Gupta’s appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast

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Gupta and Rogan – whose views were often at odds – discussed the pandemic, vaccines, potential therapeutics and the risks coronavirus poses to children and youth, among many other topics.

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“That’s half the country, probably more, when you talk about obesity and diabetes and other diseases associated with it,” Gupta said. “You’re talking about millions of people. … Isn’t it the case that we need to be vaccinated?”

“I think it’s a good case to vaccinate vulnerable people, and that includes obese people,” Rogan said.

Rogan announced last month that he had tested positive for Covid-19, but when asked if he wanted him to be vaccinated before testing positive, Rogan said no, he said that He overcame the virus “very quickly”.

“My thoughts were, I’m a healthy person, I exercise consistently, I’m always taking vitamins. I take care of myself. I thought I was going to be fine. And it was true, it was right. I ‘ I’m glad I got over it. I don’t want it to anyone. It wasn’t fun, but it wasn’t the worst cold I’ve ever had, and I got over it fairly quickly, relatively speaking.”

But, Rogan said, “I’m not advising anyone to get infected.”

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“So, they should get vaccinated,” Gupta said.

“I think a lot of people should get vaccinated,” Rogan said.

Gupta explains why COVID-19 is still a serious illness for children

The pair also discussed the risk to children from Covid-19 or vaccines.

Rogan asked Gupta what studies show about the impact of coronavirus on young children, to which Gupta replied, “We know that the chances of them getting sick are very low, that’s for sure.”

But just because children are less likely to be hospitalized or die from Covid-19, it doesn’t mean the virus doesn’t pose a threat to them, even if they are young and otherwise healthy, Gupta explained. He pointed to long-standing cases of Covid-19, with people reporting suffering symptoms for months after infection.

Rogan expressed concern over fewer cases of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – in young people after receiving the Covid-19 vaccine.

The mRNA Covid-19 vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna have been linked to rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis. Warnings added to Vaccines Fact Sheet; Studies have shown that cases are usually mild. Almost all cases occurred in young people aged 16 to 24.

“It’s terrifying for parents,” Rogan said, “the idea that your son could be vaccinated — and most likely would be fine if he had covid — and that your son could catch myocarditis.” And he could have permanent heart problems.”

“Well, I don’t know if we can say that if a person gets Covid, that’s what,” Gupta said. “When you say okay, what do you mean? That they’re not going to die?”

“I mean like me,” Rogan said. “I had covid, I’m fine.”

Gupta said, “You look like you are as strong as a bull, yes, I will give that to you.” “But you get teens who’ll have these long covid naps…they’re tired all the time. They get these kind of long-lasting kind of symptoms. Less like that in kids, but when you 33% talk about people who have persistent symptoms that last months – I think we’re allowed to have a finer conversation about this.

“We measure things in terms of life and death, and I think, it’s simple, it’s public health, that’s the way the numbers are presented. And frankly, it’s probably our fault in the media too. , just to say how it is so many people have been killed.”

But Gupta later said, “We don’t know a lot about what this virus does to the body. We probably shouldn’t think of it as another type of pneumonia or a cold, because it’s clearly something else.” There will be a cold.’

A new antiviral treatment won’t change Gupta’s view on vaccines

Rogan asked Gupta about his views on Covid-19 therapeutics, specifically a new drug from Merck and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics that would be the first oral antiviral treatment to fight Covid-19.

Merck said on Monday that it was seeking emergency use authorization for the US Food and Drug Administration’s treatment, mollupiravir, which comes in a capsule. The FDA said this week it would convene an advisory committee at the end of November to discuss it.

While Gupta said he needed to be skeptical before looking at all the data, the doctor said, “If this drug is right, you know, they review (the data) and it’s true. I think It’s very important. It reminds you that a little bit, like, Tamiflu … but it will potentially be more effective than Tamiflu for the flu.”

Merck’s submission to the FDA was based on a study that was closed early because the drug was working so well in more than 700 patients randomly assigned to take either mollupiravir or a placebo. In a statement, Merck said interim analysis indicated that molnupiravir reduced the risk of hospitalization or death by approximately 50%.

Rogan asked Gupta, “Would you change your perspective about vaccines if it proved to be very effective?”

“I still don’t want this disease, Joe,” Gupta said. “I just don’t want it, I don’t know what this virus does to the body. I’m not saying this to scare you, because like I said, most people are going to be fine.”

Rogan reveals he ‘almost’ got vaccinated

Rogan also revealed how he almost got a Covid-19 vaccine ahead of an Ultimate Fighting Championship match earlier this year in Las Vegas. Rogan is a UFC commentator.

“I almost got it,” said Rogan. “The UFC had allocated a bunch of doses for all their staff, and I came down on Friday and I said, ‘Hey, can I get vaccinated?’ And he said yes, let’s set it up.

“Just before the event started, he said, ‘You have to come to the hospital. Can you come on Monday?’ Rogan said. “And I said, ‘I can’t be here Monday.’ ‘I have a prior obligation,’ I said, ‘but I’ll be back in two weeks, let’s do it in two weeks, I’ll be back the day before.’ And he said very well.”

CDC, FDA suspend use of J&J's coronavirus vaccine, add safety warnings
But in the meantime, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine has been “pulled out,” Rogan said, referring to a moment in April when the FDA called the US pause administration of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine “rare and low numbers of” cases were recommended. The “severe” type of blood clot. The recommendation was withdrawn 10 days later, and a warning about the rare clotting syndrome was added to the label of the vaccine.

Rogan also described two others who he said had had adverse reactions after vaccination. As a result, “I got nervous about it,” he said.

Experts say the risk posed by Covid-19 infection far outweighs the risk of vaccination, and adverse reactions to vaccination are rare.

Additionally, Rogan said he was concerned that some adverse reactions were underestimated in the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System — a voluntary database where health care providers and the public can submit reports of adverse events after vaccination. (CDC notes that VARS reports may be incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified and may be subject to bias.)

“So, I’m like, how many people have had an adverse reaction that presented versus not presented?” Rogan said. “And I know some people who submit things to VARS reports aren’t telling the truth, they’re making things up. There’s a lot, you know — whenever you have, like, an open like this. The stage is going to get you a lot of crap*t right? So who knows how much is true and how much is not.”


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