According to an interview with the authors of a new book on his time in the White House, Donald Trump will not choose Mike Pence as his running mate if he runs for president again.
“That would be completely unfair,” Trump told Peter Baker and Susan Glasser. “Mike committed political suicide” by refusing to deny Electoral College votes by Joe Biden in Trump’s 2020 defeat, Trump said.
Baker of the New York Times, and Glasser of The New Yorker, are the husband-and-wife team behind The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021, which will be published next Tuesday. The Guardian obtained a copy.
The authors interviewed Trump twice in April and November last year for their book.
As vice president, Pence played a purely ceremonial role with regard to the authentication of electoral results.
Alleging election fraud, if without evidence, Trump and prominently advisers including law professor John Eastman sought to discredit Pence’s results to major states.
After consulting with his own advisers, including Conservative Judge Jay Michael Lutig and former Vice President Dan Quayle, Pence declined to cooperate with Trump’s plan.
The Capitol was then stormed by a mob that Trump knew to be armed, yet told to “fight like hell” to prevent certification. As his supporters attacked, Trump tweeted That Pence “did not have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our Constitution”.
Some rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence”. The noose was hanged outside. As described by the House January 6 committee, Pence and his Secret Service details narrowly escaped the attackers.
In committee testimony, a former Trump aide said that his then-chief of staff, Mark Meadows, told another senior aide, Trump thinks Mike deserves it. he doesn’t think [the rioters are] doing anything wrong”.
Whether Pence committed “political suicide,” as Trump claims Baker and Glasser, remains an open question.
Pence has maintained its position on the certification process. In Florida in February, he told the conservative Federalist Society: “President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election.”
But in the Republican Party dominated by Trump, any presidential candidate must balance allegiance with steps towards a run of his own.
In vote With regard to Republican candidates in 2024, Trump has a clear edge over challengers led by Florida’s Trumpist governor Ron DeSantis.
Pence is generally back in the pack, scoring in the single digits with names Trump may yet consider for a new running mate, South Dakota’s governor, Kristi Noem, and former UN ambassador Nikki Haley.
Like Noem and Haley, Tim Scott of South Carolina, the only black Republican in the Senate, has presidential ambitions of his own. But Scott has also refused to dismiss the notion of Trump being included in the ticket.
On Monday, the cover of Pence’s own White House memoir was revealed. In back-cover text, Pence says he was outraged by “what I saw” on January 6, “how it humiliated the seat of our democracy and insulted the patriotism of millions of our supporters who were never here or anywhere.” Won’t do that. Otherwise”.
as reported by axiosHowever, “most of the book is about Pence’s journey of faith” and his “pushing policy behind the scenes”.
In their book, Baker and Glasser describe Pence’s extreme loyalty to Trump prior to the Capitol riot, a stance they did not give up, even as Trump frequently discussed replacing him on the ticket in 2020. .
Quoting an unnamed person who worked with Pence, the author writes: “Most [he] Trump would say, ‘He’s like an indomitable lion that came into town.’
“When this person expresses a scathing criticism, the vice president will simply reply, ‘Okay, we’re praying for that.'”